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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 1:22 pm    Post subject: When will the main section of the Hyatt reopen?
 
Joe:



Any updates on the status of the Hyatt? I heard long ago that it was closed until February 2006. The Hyatt website gives no indication of re-opening. I have heard there may be "insurance" issues delaying a re-opening until 2007.

How about the Ritz? I have e-mailed the Ritz but never got a response. Is it really fully open? Golf course? Cousteau center? La Prarie spa? Bolletierri Tennis Center? Fancy restaurants (blue and periwinkle)?



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Edit: Title changed for clarification - Joe



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 2:20 pm    Post subject:
 
gjm - I don't have any updates on the Hyatt and I talk to someone there at least once a week. For now, the Hyatt is just the Hyatt Beach Suites, one of the best properties on the entire island. All of their restaurants and shops are open, as well as their golf course. When I hear about when they will be opening the rest of the rooms and ferry I will make an announcement. It's really difficult getting any kind of concrete information out of anyone there, which means they probably do not have any definitive plans.



I don't have any information about the Ritz other than what they publish on their web site. I do know that their golf course is not yet operational.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 12:03 pm    Post subject: any word on the Hyatt reopening?
 
Some people at Hyatt tell me that the rest o fhte hotel is shceduled to reopen on May 1st....others have no idea.



What do the "islanders" know?




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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 12:40 pm    Post subject:
 
Hello fe231,



I believe that Joe has said that he doesn't think it will open until "late 2006".



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 6:27 pm    Post subject:
 
fe231 - Whoever is telling you the main part of the Hyatt is scheduled to open in May sounds like the same people who think the island is a war zone. The sad fact is, most of the people on the other message boards do not have anyone living here and they do not have a clue. The GM and most of the directors at the Hyatt are all friends of mine and I talk to them at least once a week. There is no official word about the main section of the Hyatt opening. My best guess is that it will not open until at least the end of the year, perhaps longer. In the mean time, the Hyatt Beach Suites are one of the finest in the Cayman Islands with complete resort amenities, including two of the best restaurants on the island - Hemingway's and Bamboo.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 7:18 pm    Post subject: hyatt
 
What a shame. Such a beautiful property. When we stayed there last in 2001 we were thrilled to be there. The canal-side added so much to the experience from architecture to amenities and rounded out what I believe to have been a truly world class resort

Just like Joe said, the folks at the Britannia Villa's are saying that they do not expect the Hyatt to open prior to 2007 (some insurance issue). This is as good as saying do not plan for a reopening of the canal-side Hyatt (after Ivan they projected a December 2004 reopening on their website, when that did not materialize, the reopening was pushed back to February 2006, sometime last year any reference to a reopening was removed). I have also heard that beach suites are being listed for sale (condo-like). I do not know how that will work as most are not truly stand-alone living spaces.





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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 7:22 pm    Post subject:
 
gjm - Everything you said is 100% correct and the beach units are for sale, individually.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 9:46 pm    Post subject:
 
My husband & I stayed at Hyatt Beach Suites mid Oct. 2005 (yup, during Wilma effects)...FABULOUS time, btw! On the flight to GC I sat next to an engineeer who had "something" to do with the main Hyatt structure. He said he was en route to "consult" and from all he knew it would be at least a year before they could re-open. After we arrived and subsequently walked around the property of the main hotel, it was quite evident from the mega fans that they were still "airing out", lots of barriers up precluding walking around the hotel structures, & no actual reconstruction was underway. Were told the huge fans were placed about the buildings for airflow. This is a beautiful property that is very valuable in and of itself, but will be even more valuable as the Camana Bay deveopment proceeds No doubt it will be up and running as a top choice for Cayman visitors, but perhaps, at best, not until late this year.




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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:50 am    Post subject: hyatt
 
So what is to become of the Hyatt?

On our recent visit we observed the new West Bay Road cutting through the property. Are there any new plans for re-construction?

Having stayed there when it was the destination on SMB, it is sad to see it has not yet rebounded from Ivan.




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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 6:51 pm    Post subject:
 
Hey gjm, Hope you are doing well,



I'm curious about you comments about the Hyatt.... are you asking about the current status of the Hyatt facilities that are East of West Bay or you stating an opinion about the Hyatt altogether?



Keep in mind that your comments are here in the "Beyond the Guide" forum which is not moderated.... therefore the site moderators are not going to comment on your questions/opinions...... if there is something you want to discuss then please pose your questions or concerns in the "resorts" forum.... I do believe that The Hyatt is an advertiser so you will get numerous qualified opinions on your thoughts......



From what I hear about the Hyatt it is still a word-class resort, in fact one of the Moderators will be there in the next few weeks.... I hardly think that one of the CAG mods would frequent a resort that has a comment of "sad to see where it is now" .......



Please elaborate on your concerns and I'm sure you will get that "warm fuzzy" feeling that you seem to have had in the past about the Hyatt.....



In the mean time.... Have a Great Day!!!!


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 10:33 pm    Post subject:
 
gjm,



Since it is unclear from your post whether you have questions regarding the current status of the Hyatt, or merely are reflecting on some undated pre-Ivan memories, I thought it appropriate to move your post to the Resorts Forum, so that it receives a proper response and the appropriate peer review and comment.



I am also doing so, particularly given Captain Jack's uncertainty about your questions and comments, coupled with the potential for confusion to other members, due to presence of patent inaccuracies in your post.



Before I address your questions and comments, I want to point out in the interests of full disclosure that before I was chosen as a Moderator, I booked 3 vacations with stays at the Hyatt. The first was scheduled for July 2005, and unfortunately due to Hurricane Emily, our trip was aborted. Our second planned trip was 10/29/05 - 11/4/05. Our 3rd trip is scheduled for 7/15/06 - 7/24/06. These decisions to stay at the Hyatt were made after copious research and primarily based on the detailed and accurate information I obtained here. As you may know from even a casual review of this forum, my wife and I are seasoned and discerning travelers, who do not casually make decisons on vacation accomodations. Feel free to review my posts about our prior destinations and hotel accomodations, that clearly demonstrate such history. Accordingly, I feel I am quite competent to knowledgeably address your questions and comments. Moreover, I am not in any way affiliated with the Hyatt and have no incentive whatsoever to stay there.



Let's address your questions and comments seriatum.



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So what is to become of the Hyatt?




As you know, the Hyatt's Building, across West Bay Rd. was significantly damaged from Hurricane Ivan and has yet to re-open. The Beach Suites, across the street, as its name reflects, is directly overlooking Seven Mile Beach. The Beach Suites, which consist of 53 1 & 2 bedroom suites is open and operating, as are its signature restaurants Hemmingways and Bamboo, the swim up pool Seven Mile Beach Bar, jacuzzi, fitness and business centers, and lobby/concierge/room service and beach/pool food and beverage services.



As for when the Main Building will be reopened, I do not know exactly what is causing the delays for opening the main section of the Hyatt or when it might be completed; neither does anyone working at the Hyatt, as they are a management company and not principals of the corporation.





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On our recent visit we observed the new West Bay Road cutting through the property. That basically renders the beach "overpass" useless and cuts off that side of the property from the the beach.




The West Bay Road bypass construction has not affected the operation of the Beach Suites, the quality of service or a guest's vacation experience.



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I heard there were some structural issues with the Hyatt canal dock post-Ivan delaying its re-opening. Is that the issue with the ferry? Or does Red Sail have little interest in that operation given the state of the Hyatt property? What is the attitude of folks over at Britannia? I would be a little peeved having bought into this resort concept, to have it fall apart as it has.




The Hyatt is not responsible for the ferry service and I have no idea when that will resume. Unlike you, I am not in a position to speculate on the financial strategies of Red Sail Sports, who we do not recommend as a service provider.



I also cannot speak for the perceptions of the Britainia owners, and I suspect you cannot either, lest you would have included such conversations in your comments. Rather, I do note that the Britainia property was impeccably maintained when we were there, thus casting further doubts on the reliability of your musings.



Perhaps the only valid point you make is that the the main building across the street was beautiful, thus making it a highly desirable acommodation. It is indeed unfortunate that it has yet to re-open. However, that does not tarnish the quality of a post-Ivan stay at the Beach Suites, of which you admittedly have no experience or first-hand knowledge.



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I have to admit that on our last visit, that the Hyatt seemed a little less "spiffy" than it has in the past and certainly more tired than it should be. Having stayed there when it was the destination on SMB, it is sad to see where it is now.




Frankly, your comments about the resort looking less spiffy or tired, are not only misleading, but bereft of any factual support. Conspicuously absent from your post is any mention of the specific areas of the resort that purportedly did not merit the AAA 4 diamond ranking accorded the Hyatt. I am curious whether this may be intentional.



When my wife and I stayed at the at the Hyatt from 10/29/05 -11/4/05 we very much enjoyed our stay despite less than favorable weather. The rooms are well appointed and certainly spacious. The restaurants were excellent and the service wonderful. The Beach Suites are centrally located on Seven Mile Beach, within easy access to some of the finest restaurants, shopping and activities on GC. Overall it was impeccable.



The Hyatt Beach Suites are relatively new as they were renovated post-Ivan. Hemmingways was just redecorated shortly before our trip. Bamboo is beautifully appointed and well maintained. The food and service at both restaurants is consistently top-ranked on the island. Conspicuously absent from your comments is any indication whether you dined at either, or indeed even set foot in them. Hence, it appears you did not. I would direct your attention to the photos and reports in the Restaurant Forum that accurately reflect the decor, food and service at both establishments. I have no hesitation personally recommending either Hemmingways or Bamboo, and intend to dine at them again when we return.



The pools, grounds and beach are all clean and well maintained. Clearly, if the Hyatt was as tired/less spiffy, or had fallen as far as you suggest, then why would it be recommended by not only CAG, but other members that have stayed there, unlike you, post-Ivan. If the condition of the property was anything close to what you suggest, then certainly discerning travelers like myself would also not return. However, that is not the case.



I note from your trip reports that you stayed at Regal Beach Club during your last two visits and you did not indicate whether you stayed at the Hyatt post-Ivan. This lack of personal experieince also causes me to question the accuracy and motivation of your comments.



I also am curious about what was clearly a conscious decison to post your comments in the Beyond The Guide forum and whether it was selected with an eye towards avoiding peer review. Certainly, if you wanted answers to questions as to the reconstruction progress, resumption of the ferry, and any attendant roadway delays, all legitimate issues, there are several forums where you could have initially posted to obtain answers to your questions. However, if that was the case, I would think the questions would be framed directly and neutrally, rather than coming across as almost a gloating rumination.



Accordingly, unless you have factually accurate and not misleading information to contribute to our members in planning their vacations, it would be apppreciated if you refrain from engaging in inaacurate speculation and commentary.



John



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:12 am    Post subject:
 
John, while I am not addressing your answer seriatum, or ad nauseum for that matter, I did want to point out that I am a new member here, and there may be some sort of history between you and gjm about which I do not know.



Failing that, your post addressing this member's comments and OPINIONS makes me hesitant to post a trip report for fear of being lambasted for submitting my own opinions or speculations, should they be at all negative, or not in line with your own.




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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:26 am    Post subject:
 
stuval,



There is no history of anything between me and gjm. He and anyone else is certainly entitled to their personal opinion. My opinion was different and based on personal experience, which I clearly point out.



As you will also note, the primary purpose of my response was not to criticize another opinion but to point out its factual inaccuracies for the benefit of all members. Should any member have a negative experience, particularly at a recommended establishment, then for the benefit of all it should be posted, provided it is factually supported and based on personal experience. Cavalier comments or opinions without factual support do not help members in planning a Cayman vacation, and thus are a disservice to all. This is important so that any problems with an establishment may be promptly recognized and addressed, so as to ensure all members can enjoy the best, trouble-free Cayman vacation. Additionally, peer review of comments/opinions subjects them to scrutiny and open dialogue, thus testing their reliability, which certainly benefits all and prevents confusion.



With that in mind, please feel free to post a trip report upon your return of your experiences, good, bad or indifferent. All I ask is that you honestly and specifically report the bases for your opinions. Although I sincerely hope this does not occur, should you have a negative experience, especially with a recommended establishment, please let us know, so that it can be promptly addressed and corrected, so that it does not happen to another member.



Hope you enjoy your upcoming vacation and I assure you that we look forward to your trip report.



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"Your Honor!.... I object!!! The prosecution is leading the witness! I call for a complete disclosure of all evidence and a discontinuance of these proceedings until all seriatums and ad nauseum's can be present and furthermore a complete rumination of all musings can be elevated.....



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 7:50 pm    Post subject:
 
stuval - We very much encourage and welcome feedback based on empirical knowledge and first hand experiences. We do not however allow or condone 'opinions' based on unsupported facts, rank speculation or innuendo. The fact of the matter is no one - including the local Hyatt management staff knows when the main section of the Hyatt or the Red Sail ferry service at that location will resume. Regardless, the Hyatt Beach Suites are among the most sought after and luxurious resort accommodation in the Cayman Islands. If anyone would like to see some recent pictures I have many posted . Their restaurants - Bamboo and Hemingways are two of the finest and most popular restaurants on the island. They are situated on a beautiful stretch of white sand beach and provide every conceivable amenity.



Unfounded veiled remarks that may lead unsuspecting visitors to believe that the Hyatt Beach Suites are anything other than an outstanding resort destination are altogether unwarranted and not permitted on this message board. Jpep was kind enough to dispel any misconceptions that may have been derived from the previous post and that is one of the many tasks our moderators perform. Any animosity that may have been perceived was most surely unintentional. Our moderators are here to help ensure that only current factual content is being made available so that everyone can make their important vacation decisions based on the most reliable and extensive information available. Like myself, they have only your best interests at heart.


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